Reviewer: adder574 (Signed) · Date: 20/01/08 07:49 AM · On: Monday: Pride
Great start. Off to read part 2
Author's Response: Thanks, adder -- hope you enjoy! GS and SJ
Reviewer: fredo (Signed) · Date: 20/01/08 05:30 AM · On: Friday: Lust
wow! I know it's a short word, well not even a word, after such a long and fantastic chapter, but it's all that comes, so just wow...
Author's Response: "Wow" works. Thanks again for reviewing as you go! GS and SJ
Reviewer: justannanow (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 11:41 PM · On: Benediction
I'm just speechless. Well, almost. I read this straight thru and I'm glad I did. This story just spoke to me somehow. I don't know how to explain it and I'm not sure I want to either. But just know this story is beyond great and it makes me hope that Kripke will allow "good" to save Dean from his deal. It's about time that "something bigger" helps the boys. Anyway, thank you for this gift. It was as perfect as it comes.
Author's Response: Anna -- thank you so much for this fantastic review. To know that the story spoke to you really warms me. We put a lot of thought into the plot, but I think our emotions about the characters and the subject matter managed to seep through our fingers and before we knew it, our hearts were on the page. Thank you for seeing the good. We're both thrilled that you enjoyed it. Best always, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: freyja529 (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 07:35 PM · On: Benediction
Beautiful. Haunting. Well crafted. Bravo, girls! This was the perfect ending to a thought provoking and extremely well written story. The vid was fantastic, too! Kudos to two of the best writers in fanfic - you should both take great pride in the work you've done here.
Author's Response: But not too much pride, right? Since it's one of the sins... *wink* Thanks, you. It means a lot to me (us) that you've taken time to read and review each chapter. Now, prepare that baby girl for innundation of Winchesterisms... mine already says "Dean"... ;) Thanks for the cake. Always, GS and SJ
Reviewer: fredo (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 03:39 PM · On: Thursday: Sloth
i really do enjoy the ride, thanks a lot..
Author's Response: *claps* Thanks, fredo.
Reviewer: britany k (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 02:00 PM · On: Benediction
This was such a beautiful story of hope and faith. I truely enjoyed every word. Thank you both for sharing it with us. I'm almost sorry that it's finished. A wonderful job! Brit
Author's Response: Thanks, Brit. We're glad you saw the light in the story. :) We really appreciate you reading and letting us know you enjoyed it. Best always, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: Bookworm (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 10:53 AM · On: Benediction
good job!
Author's Response: Thank you! Glad you liked it! GS and SJ
Reviewer: fredo (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 10:22 AM · On: Wednesday: Gluttony
Awesome! The nightmares, heartbreaking, the baseball, touching. And as the owner of a little coffee shop, let me tell you that it is the best place to learn what's going on in town! Great chapters guys...
Author's Response: Oh, how fun that you own a coffee shop! I work out of my home and there are times that alone is just TOO alone and living in a college town offers me many little coffee shops to visit (with wireless connectivity). So, sitting in the shop, sipping my coffee, I hear all sorts of chatter that I can't believe people actually talk about in public! Hee. Glad you liked the baseball, too. Thanks for the chapter-by-chapter reviews! GS and SJ
Reviewer: fredo (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 08:40 AM · On: Tuesday: Greed
great chapter again. You really got the boys. I love all these little moments when they observe each other. And the storyline is terrific, there was so much more to do with the seven deadly sins that what they did in the show...
Author's Response: We started to plot this back in February of '07 and had intended on writing the whole thing before we started posting, but when a teaser revealed that the premiere was to be about the 7 deadly sins... we knew we had to get a jump on posting. :) So glad you're enjoying this! GS and SJ
Reviewer: fredo (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 06:59 AM · On: Monday: Pride
wow, long and outstanding chapter guys. Happy to see the story is now complete, it's gonna be a nice read for the weekend. And probably for next week also! this, "He had carried Sam before… he had carried him out of fires, had carried him away from battles, had carried him without even touching him... all of Sam's life. He was not about to let anyone else carry him in death…" great great line.
Author's Response: Hey, fredo! Welcome to the fray! Hope you enjoy as you read. Glad you liked that line. Couldn't see anyone pulling Sam away from Dean in that moment... Thanks for commenting! GS and SJ
Reviewer: bulletbabe (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 05:16 AM · On: Benediction
What a fantastic treat to wake up, log on and find this posted. Been waiting for this for so long and it was worth every second. I still think this is one of the best crafted, researched and written works on the site at the moment. Beautifully paced, woven with memories and references to the series as well as 'angelic, demonic christial lore.' And not to mention the references to classic literature. What you've both done is push forward the boundaries of the SPN universe that we're all familiar with, and you've complimented it with precision. I'm so very glad I was there for the ride on this one although I have a distinct feeling I'll be reading again, and probably again... ..oh, and THANK YOU BOTH for feeding my LZ addiction :) I'm one very happy reader. X Louy
Author's Response: Louy -- the Zepp was just for you. I told SJ about your comment on your review and since she had the "car parts," we thought about some Zepp songs we hadn't heard for awhile and both loved... and there you have it. :) Thanks so much for reading and for your comments. I have to say that the majority of the literary references were thanks to SJ. I research languages and lore for my stories, but when it came to Dante, I just nodded and smiled, letting her brain take the lead there. It was a trip pulling the murders together, linking them, tying them to Bob's vengence... weaving this plot at conception of the piece was almost as fun as writing each chapter. :) I hope you enjoy on subsequent reads! Oh, and I am so looking forward to posting your fabulous banner with In the Light! You truly are a talent, girl. Best always, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: LovinJackson (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 02:56 AM · On: Benediction
Hey :) This was an awesome read :D right from start to finish and this last chapter was a great ending! I loved it. I loved the banter and the seriousness of their conversations. Bobby was brilliant and I loved both conversations there :) This story balanced everything perfectly! Thanks for the ride :) Tara x0x
Author's Response: Tara -- thanks so much for the multiple site reviews!! We're so glad you enjoyed this story. Love being able to have Bobby in the story. Hee. Looking forward to more from your Wicked Game!! GS and SJ
Reviewer: NovembersGuest (Signed) · Date: 19/01/08 12:05 AM · On: Benediction
Good job, girls! Your research and planning really shows through...the plot and every chapter building the story forward step by step. You have given us good brotherly banter, intense canon-character emotions and reactions and some great angst and hurt/comfort. Take a well-deserved break and celebrate a job well done.
Author's Response: Nicole -- thanks so much! We are both so glad you've been reading and that you take time to not only post this review, but to review on multiple sites as well! That is so appreciated. I'm not so sure about a break, though. :) Writing has kept me sane when life has tried to turn me inside out. And now that SJ is writing for the VS... I don't except she'll have many breaks for a bit. :) Thanks for the "job well done" comment, though. That means a lot coming from you. Best always, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: Phoenix_Song778 (Signed) · Date: 18/01/08 11:06 PM · On: Benediction
*Sigh* and now it's over! I'm feeling slightly melancholy right now, but I'm pulling myself together to write this review ;) This was a superb ending to a real masterpiece of a story! I can't tell you how great it was to see the boys get back in the proverbial saddle again and rediscover what hunting truly means to them and more importantly what they mean to each other. You have no idea how much I wish Dean would just open his mouth and spill his guts to Sam on the show, so I took real pleasure in reading it here....it was so beautifully written. Another thing I absolutely loved...Dean's realization of his own self worth!! Seriously, I love the guy, but his complete inability to see himself as a valuable human being is sooo frustrating...makes me want to hit something! So when Dean realizes that if he hadn't been there...been alive to help Sam fight that angel, things could have turned out badly....honestly, just about brought me to tears! Damn you guys are good! On a lighter note, loved the banter between the boys and especially Dean on the phone with Bobby...laughed out loud at that. It was so Dean! The vid was awesome!! SJ you rock! What a great gift! So, before I sign off, I just wanted to thank you ladies for the amazing journey you've taken me on. I've had a great time and sincerely hope that you decide to collaborate on something else in the future. Your unique styles blend so well together! In the meantime, I look forward to anything you write individually. I know that Gaelic's got one in the works and I can't wait!!
Author's Response: Thank YOU Phoenix for reading and especially for your faithful reviews. I always eagerly watch for you after a chapter is posted. :) So glad you enjoyed this one -- and I have to agree with you, SJ does rock with that vid. She worked really hard on it and it completely blew me away. I am with you in Dean needing to realize his self worth. He breaks my heart time and again on the show, which is why I'm SO glad we have fanfic and can muse within ourselves how such a character might find his center. Thanks again for reading and on a personal note, I hope you enjoy "In the Light"... but SJ and I will have at least one more collaboration in the near future. She and I will be writing a story for the VS early in the new season. It will be the first of many entertaining adventures for SJ's "career" with the VS, and the last journey I'll be taking with that great team. It will air in mid-March and is tentatively called "Cause and Effect." We both hope you enjoy! Slainte, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: star76 (Signed) · Date: 18/01/08 08:25 PM · On: Benediction
Hey Ladies!!
Wow, I just checked back here on the off chance you had posted.... and here it is.
Full review to follow when I have had time to read it through again. But, fantastic stuff. From beginning to end this has captivated me, I am sad it is over - but now looking forward to the next adventure you and the boys take us on!!
Also, nipped over to YouTube to check out the vid - nicely done!
Take care ladies, thanks for all of your hard work.
Stella
Author's Response: Stella!! Thanks so much for sticking with us, for reading, and for letting us know that you enjoyed the story. It's been a helluva ride. You made me grin with the "read it through again" comment. And SJ says thanks much for the kudos on the vid. She is a genius of multiple levels. :) Slainte, Gaelic and SJ
Reviewer: Gobigorstayhome (Signed) · Date: 11/01/08 12:31 PM · On: Monday: Pride
I just read the most current review and was so thankful and amazed at how wonderfully put and heart felt that review was. I enjoy reading how others perceive your work, and was relieved and even smiled to learn that there are others that feel as I do about the way you two write. Amazing seems so lame, but then again, I'M not the writer here....just the one who LOVES to read what you weave. Thanks to those who review too. I enjoy what you write ALMOST as much as I enjoy the stories :)
Author's Response: Pookee is much beloved for her reviews -- thanks for calling that out. :) And for reading! Always, always good to know that you're spending time with us. :) Ya know I love ya more'n my luggage... GS and SJ
Reviewer: POOKEE (Signed) · Date: 17/12/07 10:16 AM · On: Sunday: Wrath
GAELIC & SOJOURNER, MERRY CHRISTMAS! THIS CHAPTER TRULY IS A MASTERPIECE. ALL THE UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT THE BOYS HAVE HAD SIMMERING THROUGHOUT THIS STORY AND ALL THE TENSIONS FELT AND WEAVED WITHIN EACH CHAPTER HAVE SOME FULL CIRCLE TO BRING THE BOYS TO "SUNDAY". ALL THE EMOTIONAL SOUL SEARCHING OF THE PRIOR CHAPTERS MASTERFULLY STRENGTHEN THE BONDS THAT HOLD THESE BROTHERS TOGETHER. THIS CHAPTER'S WORDS SEEM TO FLOW LIKE A RIVER, WINDING ITS WAY TO ITS ULTIMATE DESTINATION, ALMOST CHALLENGING THE READER TO FIND A GREATER MEANING. BOTH BROTHERS DESPARATELY WANT TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING...SOMEONE. DEAN FINALLY UNDERSTANDS THAT SAM'S BELIEF NEEDS TO BE ROOTED IN HIM. SAM NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT DEAN ALWAYS HAD FAITH IN SAM, ALWAYS NEEDED FAITH-FAITH IN SAM. SAM EXCLAIMATION ..."I ALWAYS NEEDED YOU, DEAN"... BEGINS BUILDING A FOUNDATION OF NEW FAITH BETWEEN THE BROTHERS AND A HIGHER POWER. THE REBUILDING OF SAM'S FAITH SLOWING TRAVELS A PATH IN THIS CHAPTER. HE SEES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "US" AND "THEM" -- MERCY -- THE START OF THE REBUILDING. SAM REALIZES THAT HE IS NOW AND ALWAYS DEAN'S TOUCHSTONE - HIS HUMANITY. CONTINUES TO REBUILD. SAM'S INNER TURMOIL, HIS WANT TO BELIEVE, BELIEVE IN DEAN, BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE THAT HE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR DEAN LIKE DEAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIM IS QUELLED BY DEAN'S EXCLAIMATION "YOU ARE MY FAITH". THIS CHAPTER LIKENS TO THE TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, EVIL ALMOST SEDUCING SAM THROUGH ZEROING IN ON HIS WEAKNESS, LOSING DEAN AND EXPLOITING THAT WEAKNESS. TO BREAK DOWN SAMS WALLS ... HIS FAITH. BUT SAM WON OVER HIS BATTLE WITH THE FALLEN ANGEL, HIS SHEAR AGONY REPLACED BY THE ECTASY OF HIS FAITH, FAITH IN DEAN AND IN GOD. HIS TRUE PRAYER, ALL FOR DEAN, BROUGHT SAM BACK TO HIS FAITH FOUNDATION AND HEALING BOTH DEAN AND SAM PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY IN THE PROCESS. AS A SIDE BAR TO THE MAIN STORY, I LOVE THE USE OF "DO NOT STAND AT MY GRAVE AND WEEP, I AM NOT THERE, I DO NOT SLEEP". THESE WORDS SO TOUCHED ME, SO SIMPLE, YET POWERFUL. SINCE THE DAY OF MY MOTHERS DEATH, I HAVE NOT VISITED HER GRAVE. MANY PEOPLE THINK I'M HARSH BUT I KNOW AND HAVE SEEN OVER HER FINAL DAYS OF LIFE THAT HER FINAL RESTING PLACE IS IN WITH THE LORD AND NOT ON EARTH. THESE WORDS CAPTURE THOSE FEELINGS SP PLAINLY. THANKS TO YOU BOTH AND CARRY ON, POOK
Author's Response: Pookee -- you don't know how happy you made us with this review. Not only that it is YOU who reviewed (because just yesterday we were wondering if we might have lost you...) but also what you said. You "got" it... you got what we were working toward throughout this whole hellish week for the boys. You saw our light and you captured it in these words. I hope you don't pull this review ever, ever because I want to be able to return to it and feel that lump in my throat again as I do this morning. Faith is such a personal subject. It's so hard to hold onto everyday. It's a daily choice for some. For me. And yet, it's also a constant -- a beat in the background of our lives that we don't always realize is there. And as SJ and I each took our own journey through writing this story--this chapter in particular--we both saw our faith as Sam and Dean did. Whether in a higher power, inside of us, or in another person, we both confronted that a bit. It's amazing to me that writing a story can do that to one, y'know? Thank you for seeing what we hoped some would see, and for laying it out there for us. I could hug you right now. :) As far as the poem, I have a copy of that taped (along with about a million other quotes) to my desk. It's something that alternately makes me want to cry with longing and smile with silent encouragement at different moments in my life. I empathize with your not visiting your mother's grave, because for you, what would be the purpose when she's not there? Thanks for sharing that. And for reading. And for reviewing. Most of all, thanks for spending time with us. Both SJ and I appreciate it more than you know. Merry Christmas!! Gaelic (and Sojourner)
Reviewer: mymuseandi (Signed) · Date: 16/12/07 09:04 AM · On: Sunday: Wrath
Wow. That was intense. It's good that you kinda stay away from being too religious and instead focus on universal topics like God and Heaven and Hell and angels without being too specific to the religion....am i making sense here? Can't wait for the epilogue....
Author's Response: Yeah, I understand what you mean, I think. The idea of good vs evil is universal -- whether you call it God and the Devil, Heaven and Hell, angels and demons... or whatever else is out there, it's the general idea that if there are so many bad things in the world to fight, there has to be some good out there to preserve. Glad you thought it was intense... we were hoping for that. :) Thanks so much for reading and leaving a comment. GS and SJ
Reviewer: Oceane (Signed) · Date: 13/12/07 10:11 PM · On: Sunday: Wrath
This chapter blew me away, so powerful and poignant. I was at the edge of my seat while reading it. Sam was wrath, I never saw this coming, the dark angel was very clever using Sam to kill both brothers. I was wincing through all Dean torture, his old wounds all opening one after the other. Sam's faith in Dean saved them. So beautifully written that I felt their pain, the love for each other. Outstanding work ladies.
Author's Response: Oceane -- thank you! We're so happy that you enjoyed this and that we wove the plot and emotions effectively for you. We really appreciate you reading and taking time to review. Best always, GS and SJ
Reviewer: bulletbabe (Signed) · Date: 11/12/07 09:17 AM · On: Sunday: Wrath
First thing that hit me about this chapter is the way you’ve documented a relationship that transcends brotherhood, and reveals the boys to be two almost identical but opposing halves of the same…both with the same love for each other…both with unaffected willingness to sacrifice for each other, and yet as individuals, polarised. Once again, by tying up all the clues and plot devices, you’ve created an imposing puzzle that fits together beautifully, and highlights the underlying themes that have permeated every season of the series to date…good vs evil, salvation vs damnation, after all…if an angel can go bad, what chance was there for Sam in season 2 – but he triumphed…and to finally hear them state that they both need each other…about time – still waiting for that one on the show… You’ve allowed the characters to lead the way and dictate the events of their lives and you’ve both done that so well. Nothing feels forced or out of character, but flows as though it’s spoken word rather than read. You’ve also forwarded the whole ethos of the show, taking the cultural story arc to a whole new level…hope Kripke’s reading… …and the ending is a belter…bout time we had an ass kicking ‘Big Good’ to counter the ‘Big Bad’ that the boys are almost always having to fight alone, even if it did only go in to pick up the pieces… All in all, I'm VERY sad this is coming to a close, only one tidy up chapter left…my only other complaint…not enough song lyric quotes from the greatest ever rock band…the LZ *grins* Dean would be gutted…Just Awesome
Author's Response: More LZ, eh? Well... let's see what we can do about that in the epilogue. *grin* This was a fantastic review, thank you so much for your words and for taking time to tell us what you thought about this chapter, this story. Your comments have made me smile each time I've seen them. I *LOVE* your "I hope Kripke's reading" comment... I'm sure he's scared to death of fanfic, but I know SJ and I certainly appreciated that. Thank you again, so much, for spending time with us. We have enjoyed watching you take this ride. Hope you like the epilogue. Slainte, GS and SJ
Reviewer: jane (Signed) · Date: 10/12/07 04:56 PM · On: Sunday: Wrath
FAbulous, girls you absolutely nailed this, utter perfection and so well worth the wait. I had this niggle that it would involve Dean from early on, but not that it would be Sam used against him, very clever. Oh the gore of all those old wounds opening up over Dean's body, I even had to put the wine glass down, red just, well, it was rather comparable to the colour of something spurting out of our boy. FAith in each other, most definitely saw them through this horrendous ordeal and a little help from him up there at the end. Just desserts all round methinks and boy do they need to just chill and regroup, rest a while and I know they won't but I'd rather like to think of the pair of them hustling some dollars in Las Vagas!! Looking forward to the conclusion and finally, just to say, that Mary's poem is truely beautiful. 'Chocolate Hotel' Choccies for the pair of you, a very large box! Thanks for sharing, girls it was a fabulous, deliciously enjoyable, graphic, nail biting, questioning, chocolate eating, and lots of wine drinking ride. Jane :)
Author's Response: *claps* Jane! 'Tis you!! Fabulous. So glad you enjoyed this one. We did promise a very bloody Sunday, yeah? I even set aside the Cab for a bit while writing... :) So glad you saw how their faith in each other was what got them both through this horrendous week. And while it may not be hustling in Vegas, you may get your wish for a wee bit o'downtime... after they take care of one or two more events. :) Oh, before I forget, glad you liked the poem as well. It's one of the more hauntingly beautiful poem's I've read in a long while. Slainte, GS and SJ
Reviewer: bulletbabe (Signed) · Date: 10/12/07 01:16 PM · On: Saturday: Envy
Well this has been the best two hours out of my day so far. What fantastic descriptions you've come up with to detail both boys internal tortured thoughts...and the visual quality you both seem to have mastered, just drags me away and into this story. I often find myself scan reading stories but haven't been tempted to do that even once here. There is just too much detail to experience and I don't want to miss anything. All those plot strands are knotting together and just show the amazing amount of thought that has gone into this story...incredibly complex yet easy to follow. Loved the 'cinnamon - sulphur' plot device, it's those sort of details that elevate this story above so many others. And...ah...'stairway'...a classic, I felt like you'd put that one in just for me...lol And now...Sam is left stripped naked of the one thing that he posessed that could help him save his brother...his belief. Damn I love this story...
Author's Response: Louy, You just made my day. Thanks so much for this -- the last line of this review bouyed me like you wouldn't believe. I am so pleased to hear that you haven't been compelled to skim. You don't know how happy that makes us, because both SJ and I put a great amount of thought and feeling into the individual parts we wrote, knowing that we would eventually have to weave them together to make a complete picture. *grin* And "Stairway"... you knew that had to be in the story at some point, yes? How could it not with two Zeppeling nuts writing the thing. :) So glad you liked that. Thanks so much for reading! GS and SJ
Reviewer: bulletbabe (Signed) · Date: 10/12/07 11:41 AM · On: Friday: Lust
Where do I start? I feel like I've just been on a rollercoaster ride starting with that traumatic plunge that was Dean's self destructive mindset ... ...moving on to that positively AMAZINGLY hot description of Dean on the dance floor *sighs* (may have to read that bit again in a mo)... ...and then finishing with an intense and frighteningly real depiction of that fiery depth that was a parallel to the pit itself... ..and let's not forget the black and broken wings...now they have me thinking! Oh and some seriously great music being quoted here, you do both have excellent taste! Roll on tomorrow...oh screw that I'm reading on...
Author's Response: *laughs and claps* I love that you're reading on!! I love that we have an 'on' for you to read! Thanks so much for the comments, and letting us know what parts got to you the most. SO glad the dance floor scene struck a chord. Hee. And the fire in the building, as well! So glad you like the music. SJ and I are music nuts. :) Or... just nuts... either way works. Hope you enjoy! GS and SJ
Reviewer: bulletbabe (Signed) · Date: 09/12/07 05:36 AM · On: Thursday: Sloth
Once again, beautiful beginning. You've managed to bare those deep-seated emotions that we all know both boys have, although I'm still waiting for the show to tackle them as well as this... ...and I'm finding this interwoven plot unbelievably compelling. I'm having to force myself not to move on to the next chapter straight away, which is always a sure sign of a great read... ...and isn't 'smushed' just the BEST word, must find a reason to use it during the course of my day. Have to say that I'm extremely impressed with the huge amount of research that has obviously gone into the preparation of this story. It's paying off! Great work to both of you.
Author's Response: Thank, Louy! Thursday has some heavy moments in it for both of us to write. I don't know if they'll ever go far into the emotions for the guys, but that is the very reason I love the freedom of fanfic. SO glad our interpretation of these moments have worked for you so far. ;) And yeah, there was a significant amount of thought that went into the design of this story -- thanks for recognizing that! :) Hope you enjoy the rest. Gaelic (and SJ) PS Love the word smushed. Heh. :)
Reviewer: NovembersGuest (Signed) · Date: 08/12/07 10:05 PM · On: Sunday: Wrath
Whew! Again, exhausting. Man, I'd love to see this day, these scenes played out. Think maybe they'd paint Jensen up to look like he did in "Faith"? I'm going to re-read that whole showdown again. Later, lol. Man, how does one top that? That was just the ultimate angst and hurt!Dean chapter with a lesson about themselves mixed in. Very, very well done. Congrats on an awesome job and can't wait for the epilogue. Wow, you guys just write Dean so, so...well, I just want to grab him and hang on to him. Thanks for "this" Dean. I love him.
Author's Response: Aw, Nicole, you're so awesome. Thanks for the multiple site reviews and for your comments. And for reading. :) To be honest, we're not looking to "top" Sunday with the epilogue, just tie up some loose ends and send the boys on their way... well, and maybe open up some more possibilities. :) But the point of this story *was* Sunday, really. All the crap they had to go through was to get them to that moment of faith in the crypt. Thank you again, so much, for your continued reviews. Mean the world to us, they really do. GS and SJ
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