Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 23/10/12 12:33 PM · On: Chapter 13 - Someone To Watch Over Me
Where was I when you posted this? I need an alert system or something. As always: love your drabble! I'm alwys surprised by how touched I am with so few words. Agonizingly thought out words, but few just the same. I wasn't surprised that Dean had his walls up but Sam did surprise me. He's become a bit more callus since the first season, more like Dean. I realize it's out of necessity. Time and experiences change people. I hate that they killed off Bobby! I love him as much as the boys. But in the last few seasons he's been able to shower them with love in his own manly way and they've reciprocated likewise. I think that's so important- to feel loved and to be able to return that love. There's something about the cycle that makes the emotion stronger than the individual parts. The foundation of Bobby's love for them is rock-solid and they have no doubt how much they're loved by him. Now we know what happens. I'm glad that by the time they put a final end to Bobby they were ready and so was he. That second chance is something that most of us don't get. All three of them saw the changes that were inevitable that robbed Bobby of who he was. It was nice that Bobby sort of led the lynching. It made for a smoother end. And I think we as viewers were ready to let Bobby go, too.
Author's Response: I'm just happy you finally found it! It surprises me how these drabbles can bring out the nuance of a scene. I guess the show is an inspiration because it is so often what they 'don't' say that hits the hardest. That was especially true in this episode. The scenes of Sam and Dean so devastated, the grief consuming their faces and yet they were so on edge and not comforting each other were majorly intense. Guh, how heartbreaking is that? Bobby's love for the boys and how they loved him back was always so strong, deep and truly felt in every word or action. It all came down to love! Dean is the one most normally fixed behind impenetrable walls and yet, I really felt like in this episode Sam was near breaking and needed his brother. I was a little shocked that Dean couldn't be there for him, as he has always been, but then I realized that it was a sign of how deep Dean's loss was. He'd finally reached the point where he was unable to support his brother, too devastated himself. Both were. the anguished silence between them so powerful. B.J.
Reviewer: ucat42 (Signed) · Date: 06/03/12 10:38 PM · On: Chapter 12 - Danger Calls
And thank you for writing them! I could just imagine Bobby saying this...
Author's Response: You're welcome! I love getting inside the characters' heads. All credit goes to the writers and actors who make them real, who make their voices so loud and clear that I hear them and just transcribe their thoughts. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 04/03/12 03:24 PM · On: Chapter 12 - Danger Calls
So do you think that Bobby stayed behind when the Reaper came for him? I keep going back and forth with that one. Without Bobby I think that either Sam or Dean (or both) are going to end up as real patients in the nuthouse. He was their stability, their fall-back, their touch of normal. Without him I don't see where they're going to go when the lines blur.
Author's Response: I do believe Bobby stayed for his boys, he is just that obstinate and ornery! I still want to know what Jensen's thoughts are on Dean's decision in IMTOD. He was told the same thing, stay to help protect Sam and risk becoming the thing he hunts, or move on and accept that his work is done. I love that they revisit concepts like that. I actually think that as hard as losing Bobby is, both Dean and Sam are stronger than they think they are. They have always trudged on, and they will continue to, most especially for their brother. Now...if one of them were to lose the other? Be TOTALLY alone in the fight...that might be too much. Then again, I would never count out a Winchester! There is just something in them that always manages to come thru even when all appears hopeless. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 04/03/12 03:21 PM · On: Chapter 11 - Love and Loss
No father should have to bury his children and Bobby had to say goodbye to both of his. As much as I hate that Bobby died it's the natural order of life. And there could have been worse ways to go than in a hospital surrounded by those who love you. It was a heroes death and more importantly, a true father's death.
Author's Response: Sera wrote a beautiful tribute episode to Bobby and his love for the boys. I most loved his comment at the end, that he saved the Best for last and then he went in to the boys arguing about Chuck Norris and simply sharing an everyday moment. Those are the moments that have lasting impact. Losing a child does upset the natural order, and as hard as it is to lose a parent, that's something we all face one day. Thanks again, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 04/03/12 03:16 PM · On: Chapter 10 - I Remember Bobby
I love that Bobby's last word to his boys was 'idjit'! That was an endearment that only Sam and Dean could appreciate, Bobby's expression of love and acceptance. I'm with you. I believe that Bobby loved both boys equally but fulfilled different needs in each. A good parent has no favorite but nurtures the best in each child determined by that child's personality, interests, aptitudes, strengths and weaknesses. I also agree that losing Bobby was the worst thing that could have happened to them (unless he's a ghost). And us! How could they do that?!
Author's Response: I was just watching a Jensen interview and he desperately wants Bobby and Jim back! I hope the writers have a plan, and I need a corporeal Bobby so they can share a hug! Bobby knew what each boy needed and he provided it. Just watching Sam in the final hours, how he held Bobby's hand, shows that Sam felt for Bobby just like Dean did. They had their own special bond, different but just as meaningful. Thanks for all the lovely comments! B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 04/03/12 03:08 PM · On: Chapter 9 - Trust, Respect and Love
I believe that Bobby was the most positive person in Dean's life. He helped Dean learn how to balance the responsibilities that were forced on him, how to want more without feeling guilty about having what he had, without being unappreciative of what his father gave him. I think seeing John through Bobby's eyes helped Dean understand John a little bit more. I think the relationship Bobby had with his father helped him see the best in John. He knew that John was honestly trying his best and the hurt he caused his sons was an unintentional product of his overprotective love. I think this was part of John's obsession to hunt and his need to rid the world of every evil thing living. It was the only way he could think of to protect his children. Ironically, his idea of protection and security robbed his children of just those things. I agree that Bobby showed Dean that love is unconditional and shouldn't hurt but the man Dean has become is partially because of John. Those qualities we love of selflessness, honor, bravery, tenderness, loyalty, and the fierce love he has for family grew in Dean because of the influence (good and bad) of his father.
Author's Response: Again, I love our discussions! John was obsessed with danger and keeping his boys safe. Bobby knew of the danger, but he wasn't as 'responsible' for the boys as their father, even tho he assumed responsibility for them having what normal kids deserved. I think Bobby always respected John's 'love' for his boys, he just bristled about how he treated them. Bobby did give Dean unconditional love and also the freedom to want, even tho it was a struggle to ever get Dean to accept he deserved more. It is so very complicated. Bottom line is there was love, unconditional, strained, disfunctional, but always strong and true. And Dean knows he was loved and is such an amazing man. And Dean is absolutely the man he is because of all the influences in his life, from John, from Bobby and from Sam. B.J.
Reviewer: ucat42 (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 10:52 PM · On: Chapter 11 - Love and Loss
It had to cut, deep, to loose his 'sons'. it had to cut him deeper to know they would loose him, thast he wasn't there to protect or help them. Then again, he would have died for them a million times over...
Author's Response: That is our Bobby, a fierce man and a fierce lover. I still get goosebumps hearing him when he said they were 'my boys!'. Yay, Bobby!
Reviewer: ucat42 (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 10:51 PM · On: Chapter 10 - I Remember Bobby
I think you summed up Sam's feelings quite nicely...and quite poignantly... Sighhhhhh
Author's Response: I always found Sam's relationship with Bobby a bit distant. But I think that's Sam's way, to keep others from seeing what he feared was inside him, that darkness he couldn't control. Bobby would have none of that. He loved Sam and he treated him like he needed to be treated, just like he did with Dean. I really loved him when he told Sam that he was never gonna cut him out of his life. Yay, Bobby... I say that alot, but man, what a marvelous character and Jim just makes you believe. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 04:48 AM · On: Chapter 11 - Love and Loss
I was shocked at first when Bobby encouraged Dean to let Sam go through with his plan. But then I saw Bobby's face when it came time to actually say his final goodbye to the kid, and you could see it all of a sudden hit home that if the plan worked, he'd never see Sam again. It brought back all my worry during season four that Bobby looked at Sam differently....until the goodbye scene. I often wonder what Bobby would have made of RoboSam coming back - surely he would have sensed something wrong...or perhaps not - perhaps soulless Sam played his role well enough to fool even that wily old hunter. And in defence of Bobby, he did know Dean better, I think. I think Sam was sometimes a closed book to him. Just my opinion. Jules
Author's Response: Bobby is a pragmatist, a realist who saw no other option. He was also the one to tell Dean, what do you fear the most, losing or losing your brother? He was inside the anguish, but also able to step outside and see what needed to be said and done. On a personal level, it had to be impossible for Bobby. That goodbye to Sam was as heartfelt as his many scenes with Dean, over making his deal for Sam, over him coming back from hell. You could feel the loss and the horrible realization of what his son was sacrificing to save the world. To get really out there...the same emotion that God must have felt when his only son Jesus was put on his path. A noble sacrifice for the good of mankind.
I really think RoboSam avoided Bobby when he came back. I'd like to see Bobby's reaction to Sam's return. Any hesitation he might have felt about Sam being 'different' I'm sure he attributed to him having been in Hell. And I do think RoboSam avoided Dean mainly because he knew he'd know. Dean always was the one person to know Sam. I love that specialness. And in return, Sam is the one person that Dean has consistently let down his guard and allowed to see him fracture apart and cry. Their roadside chats are still some of my fav Winchester moments. The concern and love, and then the lighter moments of them just joking around. But the best parts are when they cry, because nothing exposes their hearts like a few tears do. Jensen is so amazing in those scenes and Jared, you feel the love and concern. No better team out there, both as J & J and as Sam and Dean! Later, B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 04:45 AM · On: Chapter 10 - I Remember Bobby
I thought it was a beautiful moment when Sam took Bobby's hand. And yes, I do think they had their own type of bond - not quite as overt as Dean's was, but there just the same. And I'm sure Bobby did nothing but encourage the geek in Sam, letting the kid loose in that extensive library of his, even giving Sam a book or three, or perhaps more. Helping develop that big brain and keep it active. Oh, Bobby.....whatever are the boys going to do now...
Jules
Author's Response: Sam's bond with Bobby was so unclear for me that him taking his hand seemed surreal. It seemed too little, too late. But I fully accept that Sam felt for Bobby as a father. I just never 'felt' it like I did thru Jensen and Jim's acting of the Dean/Bobby bond. I think after Bobby died I felt it more. Definitely felt it when they were waiting at the hospital, worried and fearful. I always felt that Sam was most concerned for what losing Bobby would do to Dean. Like what it did to him was secondary because he still had Dean to look to for answers. In that respect I think it puts more pressure on Dean. As much as Sam is a man, Dean is the oldest and has always assumed that responsibility. Bobby released the pressure a tad, by being there, a support when Dean felt he had no one else. I really think Bobby knew what his passing would do to the boys and hence, he refused to go with the reaper. And Bobby did allow Sam to geek out in his library. I'm sure they enjoyed jokes on Dean, inside talk that Dean wouldn't appreciate or understand. Not that Dean is dumb by any stretch of the imagination, but his focus always was more on having sex with women! lol I think John had a much harder time relating to his youngest, more naturally in tune with Dean since they shared so many similar likes. Bobby managed to bond with both, giving each what they needed from him. He truly was a model Dad to them. B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:53 AM · On: Chapter 9 - Trust, Respect and Love
I can tell you it actually isn't easier to have a dick for a parent like that. Those emotional scars form very, very early, and over time, they can really screw you up. Stuff that's input into a very young psyche can stay with you for a lifetime, affecting every decision you make without you even realising it. I went to a lecture on the subject once, and the presenter likened it to an invisible hand on the back of your neck, directing you into that particular course of behavioural patterns. Until you discover that invisible hand, you just keep repeating the same patterns over and over. But even once you find out the triggers and learn the strategies for combating them, it's still a battle every single day trying to overcome those deeply embedded feelings - feelings like you're never going to be good enough; that you're useless; that you're worthless; that you should be invisible to the world, etc. That is a very hard battle to win. Regarding Dean and John, no, I don't think he was a deadbeat as Dean now thinks of him, but for Dean, it was so hard to have his hero end up so tarnished. Dean needs to reconcile both versions of his father - the faultless hero and the flawed man, and realise that the real John Winchester lay somewhere in the middle. And ultimately, he did willingly give his life for both his boys, because I think he knew that to lose Dean would be to lose Sam as well. But the boys would have been truly lost without that support from Bobby, that support that was never withdrawn, no matter what the boys got themselves into.
Jules
Author's Response: Every time I see a Father's Day card I wonder who gets these terrific dads who do it all right? I was opposite of Dean, I hated my father at times growing up and later reconciled with him, but yes, the feeling that you never measure up, that your wants aren't important, that 'you' don't matter run deep. That's the beauty of the relationships on Supernatural. I think Sam and Dean had very different reactions to their dad. They both loved him and grew to hate him at times. He was larger than life, and that does overshadow you as a kid. You don't know who you are or what you're allowed. You really don't think you deserve better... It's all you know and how can you even comprehend there is supposed to be more? And yet there is a longing...a dream that maybe...
I really believe that's why Supernatural resonates so deeply with so many of us, it touches on universal truths and feelings that we all own. They just do it on a grander scale with the fate of the world hanging in the balance. And then they throw in real monsters instead of the demons in our own minds.
I also like that it shows that you can be strong but also vulnerable, confident and yet unsure, brave and yet scared. We have all these reactions within us and circumstance often forces us to respond in a certain way, guiding us to what we have to do, even if we doubt we can make a difference or even attempt the impossible. I need Dean to reconcile the two sides of his dad, to see and understand as Sam did in his conversations with Dad that how it all turned out wasn't what was intended. That young John was appalled at the thought of raising his kids in the world of hunting. The main thing I learned about my dad was that who he was as my father was not who he was as a young man with dreams and hopes. It truly was a revelation to learn that how I viewed things as a child was filtered by misperceptions and falsehoods that I couldn't comprehend at the time. Secrets and hurts that were buried so deep that even my father didn't face up to them.
People change, life alters them and sometimes how they treat others is a reflection back on how they were treated. It's why so many repeat the mistakes of their parents, swearing they would never be like them and yet fate turns and there they are. As writers I think our experiences enrich us and give us the empathy to delve deep into our characters. If they say there's a purpose to everything, then maybe that's ours, to illuminate how people feel and the hurts that forever linger within our hearts. *hugs* B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:44 AM · On: Chapter 8 - Pressure
I feel the influence of Bobby during the boys' darkest years did change things on a global scale indeed. I love that Bobby was just there for the boys, that he was a stable influence, provided them a home and a haven in which to rest and feel safe, and that he managed to cut through the bullshit and tell it like it was. His tough love I think kept the boys together, in more ways than one. Not just together as in sticking with each other as family and as a team, but kept each of them from falling apart. Although in Sam's case, he turned away from that support and almost self-destructed while Dean was in Hell. Perhaps he felt he didn't deserve Bobby's help, since his brother was in hell because of a deal to bring him back to life. And of course, Sam more than Dean takes after John - that single-minded drive for revenge that takes precedence over everything. Oh, and to answer an earlier comment of yours - I think Bobby drank that beer, too, although I'm surprised he hung around, knowing how vengeful spirits form. But at the same time, I'm glad he's still there for the boys. And yep, I don't believe it was the wind blowing through the open window either, Dean. I think it was Bobby pointing to that piece of paper. Jules
Author's Response: Oh, it was definitely Bobby! I do think Sam felt guilty over Dean dying for him, but I also think he knew Bobby wouldn't approve of his actions. He is so single-minded, so like his dad. No wonder they fought so. It makes me feel so for Dean, how he never felt he could stand up for himself or talk about his needs. He'd stand up for Sam, I'm sure...at times. I'm sure he backed John plenty too, but if it really came down to it, he supported Sam as John failed to support Dean. I love Bobby's tough love. I hate how some fans railed against him for picking on Dean. If they can't see where he's coming from, from intense love for his surrogate son and only wanting the best for him...well, they just don't understand how much love is there and how sometimes Dean might need a swift kick in the backside! I never saw Dean angry with how Bobby treated him, instead it often pushed him to actions that he needed to take, but he was just too stubborn or hurt to do. B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:36 AM · On: Chapter 7 - I Need a Hero
I agree - John got so caught up in the hunt, he forgot that he also needed to be a father to his sons. And I think it took a very long time before Dean finally looked beyond that hero worship to see the flawed man behind the mask he'd put over his father. I also think Dean needed to have his perceptive of John shattered, or stripped away - because I believe that was the only way for Dean himself to move forward. Dean had been living in John's shadow - and in Dean's mind, John cast a very big shadow. Dean's had a few growth spurts during the last seven seasons - and most of them have been painful. Like the one in Jump The Shark. But Dean needed that revelation to shake off those rose-coloured glasses and see John as a human being who made some pretty serious mistakes and bad judgement calls. Dean needed to move out from John's shadow and become Dean Winchester, not John Winchester's good little soldier. And I think Dean's journey of self-discovery is still going on. It will be interesting to see what rises from the ashes.
Jules
Author's Response: While I hated them killing off John, I totally respect why they did it. It did bring much growth and self-examination. John was a huge shadow over Dean. I don't know how he ever could have come fully into his own as long as he hunted with John. He would have always been the second lieutenant, the guy waiting for instruction even tho he was perfectly able to proceed on his own. Dean needed the freedom to do it, to shake off being John Winchester's son and become his own man. He is still on the journey, but man, what a wondrous adventure for us! Dean has been forged by the fires of hell and the pressures from his dad, he will emerge as one strong, heroic man. Thanks again for all the lovely discussion, so awesome to share our thoughts on these intriguing Winchesters! B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:31 AM · On: Chapter 6 - Sophie's Choice
I have often wondered, especially during seasons three and four, whether Bobby favoured Dean over Sam. It wasn't until Sam was detoxing in the panic room towards the end of season four that I became convinced that Bobby loved Sam just as much as he did Dean. The bond between Bobby and Dean was obvious - the bond between Bobby and Sam much less so. I firmly believe Sam loved Bobby, and as a father figure as well as a friend and mentor, but I've always seen Sam as someone perpetually on the outside looking in. His whole body language in Shadow when the boys came back to the motel to find their father waiting - well, that just smacked of someone who wasn't sure he should even be there. Dean didn't hesitate - he barrelled straight into his father's arms. Sam hung back near the door, almost fidgeting, and then he circled around to stand slightly behind Dean's shoulder, not approaching until John made the first move. And my heart ached for that poor, lonely kid who just wanted to be accepted. I think perhaps that sometimes Bobby didn't quite know how to take Sam, and I feel that there was one person only who ever understood him fully...and that was Dean. I think Sam gives Dean his love and loyalty unconditionally, but is cautious with everyone else until he gets to know them. He seems openly friendly, but I think he guards his heart very carefully. Anyway, that's just my humble opinion. Jules
Author's Response: Jules, I think your humble opinion is spot on! I wholeheartedly agree! While Sam appeared more open to friendships and such, he never revealed himself. It was surface friendships. Dean seemed to lack those, but when you are Dean's friend or part of his family, he fully embraces you. Hence the memorable hugs and the closeness we saw between him and Dad and him and Bobby. We also saw how similar Bobby's childhood was to theirs, how similar he probably was to Dean in other ways too. He 'got' Dean while Sam was a mystery. He said that in HTWFAIM. I love the complexity of their relationships. I love how Dean is so important to Sam, even tho it took a long time for him to fully feel it. B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:25 AM · On: Chapter 5 - Heroes and Cowards
I agree, Bobby walked a fine line there, especially knowing how volatile John was. I think that John did truly love his sons, but he needed instant obedience, and never saw that the boys themselves needed so much more than training and revenge. Both boys have grown up with self-esteen issues up the wazoo, and even Bobby couldn't combat that emotional scarring. Heaven knows he tried, but I think it just went too deep. Dean, devaluing himself and always thinking he was a failure and a second-class citizen, and Sam convinced he has always been a freak and a bad son and never fitting in anywhere, not even within his own family unit. I do love that line though - "How do you tell a kid his dad's an idiot?" How indeed...? Jules
Author's Response: Yes, those boys certainly have issues, but yet they are such strong, caring, good men. Bobby did all a man could possibly do, but their lives left scars. Did you see JDM recently defending John and saying he'd love to come back and show the other side of John? That the show has been trashing John's character and how wrong that is? I agree, John loved his boys, fought and died for them. I think they've set up perfectly for Dean to confront his dad and resolve some of his issues. John was neither the white knight hero who did no wrong, nor was he a deadbeat dad. Dean is swinging wildly trying to come to terms with his dad, but John is somewhere in the middle and Dean needs to reconcile that. They need to make peace and accept each other. And Dean needs to hear one more time that John not only loved him, but he is proud of him. I loved when John told him that in IMTOD, but it only served to confuse Dean and then the burden put on him negated any good from hearing the words. I doubt Dean even remembered after that terrible burden and guilt from John dying. Glad you liked that line. I love being able to be blunt and tell it like it is when I'm voicing Bobby. You can't shatter the hope and love that Dean had for John. Bobby would never take that away from a child, all he had to hold on to. Bobby was in such a tight spot, placating John while standing up for the boys. I'm sure his anger spilled over at times and Dean bore witness. It had to be hardest on Dean, trapped between two men he admired and wanted to please. Unsure how to live in the middle. I can't see him ever going against John during that time. Any doubts he might have had were buried so deep, he'd never admit to them or acknowledge their validity. Always awesome to talk with you. I miss the email group, but time is not on my side. Lots of family issues with my mom and then work, work, work. I'll have to dig to even remember the email sign in, it's been so long! Later, B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:20 AM · On: Chapter 4 - Lucky in Love
And he was there, every step of the way. I think the boys were never far from his thoughts even during that time after the mystery fight between Bobby and John, when he didn't see the boys at all. And like you, I'd LOVE to find out just what that fight was about. And yes, I'm sure Dean would have been torn between those two men - one his natural father, whom he worshipped, and the other his surrogate father, who gave him what John couldn't - encouragement. When I first watched the episode way back when, I got the impression that Dean felt at the time they might not be welcome there. Might have to go through season one again and see what my impressions are seven years down the track, and with the knowledge of everything that came after that point. It will be an interesting trip down memory lane. Jules
Author's Response: At fanfiction a reviewer noted that in Bobby Singer's Guide to Hunting they reference when Bobby and John fought and he cocked the shotgun. That was a time when it appeared John had died and Dean as a boy ran off. Anyhoo, I'm sure Bobby cocked the shotgun a few times with John! I doubt that was what Dean referenced in DT.
I definitely got the feeling that Dean felt that maybe he wasn't welcome, either not at all, or because it was John they were looking to rescue. I believe that that time of discord between Bobby and John had to do with the boys (obviously! lol) but something to do with Sam leaving. Either Bobby was mad about how John let Sam go, or more likely, he was angry with how John was dumping on Dean even tho Dean stayed. I imagine there was a lot of tension and pressure on Dean during those two years alone with John. I also think there was bonding between the two and the gradual acceptance that Dean was a capable hunter worthy of hunting alone. But then, was that just at the end when John was grooming Dean because he knew he was taking off after the demon? I don't want to think that Dean didn't see Bobby the whole time Sam was off at school. That would be too terrible to think Dean lost not only Sam, but Bobby too for those two years. I love that this show gives us so much story and yet there are always questions and more to discover. It's why I feel the show can last for a long time, have prequels and also move into movies. So many Winchester tales to tell! Take care, B.J.
Reviewer: mizpah (Signed) · Date: 26/02/12 03:17 AM · On: Chapter 3 - Second Chance
So many reveals in Bobby's swansong episode, weren't there? Like his decision not to have children of his own, because he feared he would turn out a drunken bully like his own father. How tragic that, like the Winchester boys, Bobby failed to see his true worth, and the real man beneath that gruff exterior. He made a wonderful father figure to the boys. And how special was it that those two little mop-headed tots wormed their way so thoroughly into Bobby's heart, so much so that he stood up to the reaper and proclaimed them as his boys. I cheered at that statement. Oh, Bobby...*sniffle*...I miss him as much as the boys do. Jules
Author's Response: Hey, Jules! I totally agree, I miss Bobby sooooo much! Those boys did worm they way inside his heart and they became his sons. We didn't need to hear it, but man, when Bobby said it I squeed with glee! I can totally relate to Bobby's decision to not have kids. I loved the backstory on Bobby's childhood, it made him so real in all his feelings and actions towards the boys. He understood, he really did. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: snseriesfan (Signed) · Date: 13/02/12 08:33 AM · On: Chapter 9 - Trust, Respect and Love
Wonderful end notes, B.J. You said it perfectly, which describes why we all loved Bobby. Gosh, I sure would love a sentence of dialogue from Dean acknowledging resolution of his feelings for John. I don't like where the show left it.
Author's Response: Just a thought, but maybe when Cas comes back, maybe when they parallel their stories with their fathers again, then maybe both will realize their perceptions were off, that both Dad's loved their kids. I too want some resolution, some acknowledgment from Dean that he still loves and respects his dad, that he accepts he wasn't perfect but that he knows he tried his best. I'd really love to see Bobby talk to Dean about his dad. Bobby be that bridge between hero-worship and the deadbeat dad comments. Always something for show to give us cause we always want more! Thanks again, B.J.
Reviewer: ucat42 (Signed) · Date: 13/02/12 12:26 AM · On: Chapter 9 - Trust, Respect and Love
I agree with your author's notes, wholeheartedly. This chapter brought a tear to my eye. It was exactly how I was picturing it....
Author's Response: I started a story so long ago (another unfinished one on my computer that is clogged with unfinished stories! lol) that is how Bobby met the boys. And of course the cornerstone in that is that Dean didn't trust him one bit. I think you had to earn Dean's trust and then his respect and if you are very fortunate to win his love, well...that's for life! Once that boy welcomes you into his heart, he would never let you go. *sigh* Thanks again, B.J.
Reviewer: ucat42 (Signed) · Date: 13/02/12 12:23 AM · On: Chapter 8 - Pressure
I am so loving these ramblings...I don't think I can add much more after reading the other reviews, so I'll say, well done, my dear, well done!
Author's Response: Thanks, always appreciated!
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 08/02/12 05:17 PM · On: Chapter 8 - Pressure
I don't think even Bobby realizes what a fantastic impact he had on Dean. He accepted Dean for who he was and loved him for being just that--- Dean Winchester, no more, no less. Not a hunter, brother or son. Not a drunk, womanizer or savior. Not just for his good looks, strength or cunning. He was loved for being all those and none of them. He was loved just for being. I think the only positive eyes through which Dean sees himself are from Sam and Bobby. And bobby never let him down.
Author's Response: I agree, and you stated it beautifully! I don't think Bobby ever let Dean down either. Some get upset with his harsh words at times, but I take my clue from Dean. Dean never buckles from Bobby's words, he respects the man and understands the love within the words and he listens. I think Sam and Bobby are the too people Dean listens to and yes, feels their love. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 08/02/12 05:07 PM · On: Chapter 7 - I Need a Hero
I think that part of the reason Dean idolized his dad was because he didn't want to admit that their lives sucked for nothing. They lost their childhood and for Dean to see his dad's flaws would seem like a waste of their sacrifices. Dean needed to believe in John as much as John needed to believe in his cause. They each had their own types of blankies that they couldn't let go.
Author's Response: As a child who'd lost everything, Dean clung to what he had left, Dad and Sam. Sam was his to protect and I think Dean needed to believe Dad was there to protect him. Dad was a hero, because if he wasn't then Dean had a whole lot of scared to face. If he could convince himself that Dad was invincible, then maybe he could not be so scared. It was a reality he could cope within, anything else was just more pain and fear. I shudder to think what would have happened to Dean IF John had died while he was still a kid. I think that might have permanently scarred him and shattered his world. B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 08/02/12 05:01 PM · On: Chapter 6 - Sophie's Choice
Wow! There are so many gems in this piece! I can't say that any one point struck me more than any other. However, I did like your choice of the word idjit. :)
Author's Response: I agree with Jim, Bobby calling them idjit at the end was perfection. It isn't the word, it's the meaning behind the word and for a guys like the Winchesters, they all understand the significance of idjit! Part of this chapter was spurred on by some fans lamenting that Bobby doesn't love Sam. I think there is mutual love and respect there, just not as deep a need as Bobby and Dean share. Bobby didn't say Dean was his son, he said they BOTH were his and I think he meant it. You love all your kids, giving each what they need. I also love the thought of Bobby fighting for them, hanging on for them and never giving up. Later, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 08/02/12 04:57 PM · On: Chapter 5 - Heroes and Cowards
How do you tell a kid his dad's an idiot? I laughed so hard. I like that you pointed out that Dean needed to believe that everything they missed out on was for a greater good. He needed a good reason for their nomadic and at times miserable home life.
Author's Response: I love that Bobby is straight-forward and doesn't pull punches. John was an idiot when it came to relating to his boys as children. Dean held tight to all he had left, his dad and his dad's cause. Dean always believed in saving people, discounting his own needs because what Dad did mattered. I don't see how a kid like Dean, caring and compassionate and so loving of his dad could feel any different. It was the natural progression. Thanks again, B.J.
Reviewer: Shannondoah (Signed) · Date: 08/02/12 04:52 PM · On: Chapter 4 - Lucky in Love
You have such a beautiful way of expressing thoughts and emotions. It's like we're living that life.
Author's Response: Thank you! That is one of the loveliest reviews I've ever received! Much appreciated! B.J.
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